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P.s. 165 Robert E Simon vs. P.s. 163 Alfred E Smith

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School Overview

School
P.s. 165 Robert E Simon
234 W 109th St
New York, NY 10025
: 
6/
10
Top 50%
P.s. 163 Alfred E Smith
163 W 97th St
New York, NY 10025
: 
8/
10
Top 30%
Top Rankings

P.s. 165 Robert E Simon ranks among the top 20% of public schools in New York for:

Category
Attribute
Most improved public schools
Most improved public schools (Top 5%)
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Overview
Serving 425 students in grades Prekindergarten-5, P.s. 165 Robert E Simon ranks in the top 50% of all schools in New York for overall test scores (math proficiency is top 50%, and reading proficiency is top 50%).
The percentage of students achieving proficiency in math is 50-54% (which is approximately equal to the New York state average of 52%). The percentage of students achieving proficiency in reading/language arts is 50-54% (which is higher than the New York state average of 49%).
The student-teacher ratio of 14:1 is higher than the New York state level of 11:1.
Minority enrollment is 73% of the student body (majority Hispanic), which is higher than the New York state average of 60% (majority Hispanic).
Serving 524 students in grades Prekindergarten-5, P.s. 163 Alfred E Smith ranks in the top 30% of all schools in New York for overall test scores (math proficiency is top 50%, and reading proficiency is top 50%).
The percentage of students achieving proficiency in math is 62% (which is higher than the New York state average of 52%). The percentage of students achieving proficiency in reading/language arts is 60-64% (which is higher than the New York state average of 49%).
The student-teacher ratio of 13:1 is higher than the New York state level of 11:1.
Minority enrollment is 85% of the student body (majority Hispanic), which is higher than the New York state average of 60% (majority Hispanic).
Grades Offered
PK-5
PK-5
Total Students
425 students
524 students
This chart illustrates the total number of students at P.s. 165 Robert E Simon over the years, with the most recent data from the 2023-24 school year.
This chart illustrates the total number of students at P.s. 163 Alfred E Smith over the years, with the most recent data from the 2023-24 school year.
% Male | % Female
51% | 49%
49% | 51%
This pie chart depicts the gender distribution at P.s. 165 Robert E Simon.
This pie chart depicts the gender distribution at P.s. 163 Alfred E Smith.
Total Classroom Teachers
31 teachers
40 teachers
This chart illustrates the total number of teachers at P.s. 165 Robert E Simon over the years, with the most recent data from the 2023-24 school year.
This chart illustrates the total number of teachers at P.s. 163 Alfred E Smith over the years, with the most recent data from the 2023-24 school year.
Student-Teacher Ratio
14:1
13:1
This chart presents a comparison of the student-teacher ratio at P.s. 165 Robert E Simon with the average student-teacher ratio for public schools in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and the state of New York, utilizing data from multiple years and featuring the most recent figures from the 2023-24 school year.
This chart presents a comparison of the student-teacher ratio at P.s. 163 Alfred E Smith with the average student-teacher ratio for public schools in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and the state of New York, utilizing data from multiple years and featuring the most recent figures from the 2023-24 school year.

Test Scores

#1809 out of 4346 schools in NY
(Top 50%)
#1176 out of 4346 schools in NY
(Top 30%)
This chart illustrates the overall school ranking of P.s. 165 Robert E Simon, encompassing data from multiple years, including the most recent figures from the 2022-23 school year.
This chart illustrates the overall school ranking of P.s. 163 Alfred E Smith, encompassing data from multiple years, including the most recent figures from the 2022-23 school year.
50-54%
(Top 50% in NY)
62%
(Top 50% in NY)
This chart presents a comparison of the percentage of students at P.s. 165 Robert E Simon who have achieved proficiency or higher in Math with the average percentages observed in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and New York public schools over several years, with the most recent data from the 2022-23 school year.
This chart presents a comparison of the percentage of students at P.s. 163 Alfred E Smith who have achieved proficiency or higher in Math with the average percentages observed in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and New York public schools over several years, with the most recent data from the 2022-23 school year.
50-54%
(Top 50% in NY)(21-22 School Year Data)
60-64%
(Top 30% in NY)(21-22 School Year Data)
This chart presents a comparison of the percentage of students at P.s. 165 Robert E Simon who have achieved proficiency or higher in RLA (Reading and Language Arts) with the average percentages observed in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and New York public schools over several years, with the most recent data from the 2021-22 school year.
This chart presents a comparison of the percentage of students at P.s. 163 Alfred E Smith who have achieved proficiency or higher in RLA (Reading and Language Arts) with the average percentages observed in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and New York public schools over several years, with the most recent data from the 2021-22 school year.
80-89%
(Top 50% in NY)(21-22 School Year Data)
80-89%
(Top 50% in NY)(21-22 School Year Data)
This chart presents a comparison of the percentage of students at P.s. 165 Robert E Simon who have achieved proficiency or higher in Science with the average percentages observed in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and New York public schools over several years, with the most recent data from the 2021-22 school year.
This chart presents a comparison of the percentage of students at P.s. 163 Alfred E Smith who have achieved proficiency or higher in Science with the average percentages observed in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and New York public schools over several years, with the most recent data from the 2021-22 school year.

Students by Grade

Students by Grade
This chart displays the students of P.s. 165 Robert E Simon by grade.
This chart displays the students of P.s. 163 Alfred E Smith by grade.
Pre-K Students
35
29
Kindergarten Students
73
80
Grade 1 Students
69
87
Grade 2 Students
64
77
Grade 3 Students
52
81
Grade 4 Students
83
93
Grade 5 Students
49
77

Students by Ethnicity

% American Indian
n/a
n/a
This chart presents a comparison of the percentage of students who identify as American Indian at P.s. 165 Robert E Simon, versus the percentage of public school students who identify as American Indian in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and in New York, utilizing data collected over several years with the most recent figures pertaining to the 2018-19 school year.
This chart presents a comparison of the percentage of students who identify as American Indian at P.s. 163 Alfred E Smith, versus the percentage of public school students who identify as American Indian in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and in New York, utilizing data collected over several years with the most recent figures pertaining to the 2013-14 school year.
% Asian
9%
6%
This chart presents a comparison of the percentage of students who identify as Asian at P.s. 165 Robert E Simon, versus the percentage of public school students who identify as Asian in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and in New York, utilizing data collected over several years with the most recent figures pertaining to the 2023-24 school year.
This chart presents a comparison of the percentage of students who identify as Asian at P.s. 163 Alfred E Smith, versus the percentage of public school students who identify as Asian in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and in New York, utilizing data collected over several years with the most recent figures pertaining to the 2023-24 school year.
% Hispanic
48%
64%
This chart presents a comparison of the percentage of students who identify as Hispanic at P.s. 165 Robert E Simon, versus the percentage of public school students who identify as Hispanic in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and in New York, utilizing data collected over several years with the most recent figures pertaining to the 2023-24 school year.
This chart presents a comparison of the percentage of students who identify as Hispanic at P.s. 163 Alfred E Smith, versus the percentage of public school students who identify as Hispanic in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and in New York, utilizing data collected over several years with the most recent figures pertaining to the 2023-24 school year.
% Black
13%
12%
This chart presents a comparison of the percentage of students who identify as Black at P.s. 165 Robert E Simon, versus the percentage of public school students who identify as Black in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and in New York, utilizing data collected over several years with the most recent figures pertaining to the 2023-24 school year.
This chart presents a comparison of the percentage of students who identify as Black at P.s. 163 Alfred E Smith, versus the percentage of public school students who identify as Black in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and in New York, utilizing data collected over several years with the most recent figures pertaining to the 2023-24 school year.
% White
27%
15%
This chart presents a comparison of the percentage of students who identify as White at P.s. 165 Robert E Simon, versus the percentage of public school students who identify as White in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and in New York, utilizing data collected over several years with the most recent figures pertaining to the 2023-24 school year.
This chart presents a comparison of the percentage of students who identify as White at P.s. 163 Alfred E Smith, versus the percentage of public school students who identify as White in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and in New York, utilizing data collected over several years with the most recent figures pertaining to the 2023-24 school year.
% Hawaiian
n/a
n/a
% Two or more races
3%
3%
This chart presents a comparison of the percentage of students who identify as two or more races at P.s. 165 Robert E Simon, versus the percentage of public school students who identify as two or more races in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and in New York, utilizing data collected over several years with the most recent figures pertaining to the 2023-24 school year.
This chart presents a comparison of the percentage of students who identify as two or more races at P.s. 163 Alfred E Smith, versus the percentage of public school students who identify as two or more races in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and in New York, utilizing data collected over several years with the most recent figures pertaining to the 2023-24 school year.
0.68
0.55
This chart showcases the diversity score of P.s. 165 Robert E Simon, juxtaposed with the average diversity score for public schools in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and New York, utilizing data that spans several years and includes the most recent figures from the 2023-24 school year.
This chart showcases the diversity score of P.s. 163 Alfred E Smith, juxtaposed with the average diversity score for public schools in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and New York, utilizing data that spans several years and includes the most recent figures from the 2023-24 school year.

Additional Information

Eligible for Free Lunch
57%
66%
This chart showcases the percentage of students eligible for free lunch at P.s. 165 Robert E Simon, juxtaposed with the average percentage of public school students eligible for free lunch in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and New York, utilizing data that spans several years and includes the most recent figures from the 2023-24 school year.
This chart showcases the percentage of students eligible for free lunch at P.s. 163 Alfred E Smith, juxtaposed with the average percentage of public school students eligible for free lunch in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and New York, utilizing data that spans several years and includes the most recent figures from the 2023-24 school year.
Eligible for Reduced Lunch
3%
1%
(22-23 School Year Data)
This chart showcases the percentage of students eligible for reduced-price lunch at P.s. 165 Robert E Simon, juxtaposed with the average percentage of public school students eligible for reduced-price lunch in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and New York, utilizing data that spans several years and includes the most recent figures from the 2023-24 school year.
This chart showcases the percentage of students eligible for reduced-price lunch at P.s. 163 Alfred E Smith, juxtaposed with the average percentage of public school students eligible for reduced-price lunch in the New York City Geographic District # 3 and New York, utilizing data that spans several years and includes the most recent figures from the 2022-23 school year.
 
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